[Fwd: Mircosoft doesn't sleep]

[Zsolt Kuti]

Sziasztok!

Nehany velemeny a Java listarol a cikkrol.
(http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/dotnet/2001/06/27/dotnet.html) 

Zsolt



Rick Moore wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> 
> I've been following this mailing list for years as I struggle to build my
> own company which uses server-side Java extensively.  Recently I've come to
> the realization that FreeBSD, which is marketing itself as more of a server
> platform, is in big trouble without a binary Java 2 implementation.  In
> fact, I've tried Linux repeatedly for this very reason but it always falls
> short of FreeBSD in other ways.
> 
> >From my possibly-biased perspective, server-side technology appears to be
> coalescing into three camps: Microsoft, J2EE, and everything else.  Without
> solid Java 2 (ie stable, binary, and native), it seemed that FreeBSD could
> lose the server-side Java camp.  I don't mean to diminish all the great work
> you folks have been doing-- under the circumstances you've done a hell of a
> job, but Free BSD Java 2 just is not in a state that would be acceptable to
> most companies.
> 
> This article changes everything, though.  I am absolutely floored that it
> looks like FreeBSD will serve as a platform for the Microsoft camp.
> 
> This could be really good for FreeBSD in many respects.  Like it or not,
> Microsoft and commercial software still have a huge influence.  The
> attention they will divert to FreeBSD could help bridge the growing gap
> between FreeBSD and Linux.  Most obviously, FreeBSD will be able to support
> one of the major server side camps and affirm its position as a server
> platform.  Also, Microsoft compiler technology tends to be very good
> although Intel has helped gcc to some degree.
> 
> It could also be bad for FreeBSD.  Typically the open-source community has
> been (shall we say) a bit anti-Microsoft.  Microsoft is making it look like
> they are FreeBSD's best friend.  At the risk of sounding like a high-school
> teenager: yikes, what's this going to do to our image?  I have to hand it to
> Microsoft, though: they recognized a golden opportunity and grabbed it.
> 
> It's hard to say how Sun will react.  They might see this as an intrusion
> into their UNIX domain and get serious about FreeBSD Java.  ...or they could
> see FreeBSD as a casualty or a lost cause.
> 
> It's laughable that Microsoft will probably use a bunch of "viral" GPL tools
> to port their code, though.  Also, I have to wonder how all the folks used
> to working on Microsoft platforms would feel about using FreeBSD.  Most of
> the Microsoft fans I know aren't fond of UNIX-- without them Microsoft's
> efforts could turn into a dud.  Microsoft has a way of jumping out of things
> as fast as it jumps into them.
> 
> My 2 cents-- thanks for listening.  Keep up the excellent work on your Java
> porting efforts!
> 
> Rick
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-freebsd-java at FreeBSD.ORG
> > [mailto:owner-freebsd-java at FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Egon Reetz
> > Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 4:30 AM
> > To: freebsd-java at FreeBSD.ORG
> > Subject: Re: Mircosoft doesn't sleep
> >
> >
> > Despite I don't trust MS anymore, this is a chance of getting
> > Sun or IBM to port Java to FreeBSD (and maybe
> > other BSDs as well). In the past MS told everyone how bad (in
> > every direction) the Linux OS is, so it's no
> > wonder they choose FreeBSD. I myself prefer Java and will not
> > use any part of MS's marketing strategies.